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Match-Daten (Stand: 19.10.2018 / 21:25): Ergebnisse/Lineup

Termin laut Spielplan: 15.10.2017 / 18:00 - Lineup fixiert

Heim-Team - Clan-Tag: OwNu RenTner - OwNu
Gast-Team - Clan-Tag: Pro-gaming College - pG.

aktuelle Punktewertung des CW: 11:4 (nicht besttigt)

 StartmapHeim-Team DefWin-Ergebnis-DefWinGast-Team
1on1 Nomad Isle 1.2 JustAGozu 2 : 0 Schoko
o_o)sexysynt schoko
1on1 Amazonia KaRo 1 : 2 Lota]ikbencool
gokuultrainst. pg.ikbencool
1on1 Ancient Isle JokeRn. 1 : 2 pG.Havoline
malijkr pg.havoline
2on2 Gnoll Wood ToX & Furioso 2 : 0 Lota]ikbencool & DypraX
weakud more.than.ever pg.ikbencool yipikai
2on2 Twisted Meadows KaRo & yaBoltez 2 : 0 MezzoMix & Schoko
gokuultrainst. pwnuyaboundez mezzomix schoko

Kommentare zum Clanwar

OwNu|Yosham 01.12.2017 / 21:03:29
Sniq + furioso 2-0 ikbencool + mezzomix
pG.|pG.Okkulam 01.12.2017 / 16:10:09
I asking now, sorry didnt see messages
OwNu|Yosham 30.11.2017 / 20:12:27
Tox can only do Thursday at 2030. Finding out about times for Friday and the weekend.
OwNu|Yosham 29.11.2017 / 17:51:55
finding out. just in case what times are you available on the weekend?
pG.|pG.Okkulam 27.11.2017 / 17:52:40
ikbencool+crypsis can play on wednesday/thursday/friday
arround 18 cet
OwNu|Yosham 26.11.2017 / 21:26:53
fyi at the moment we are still waiting for gw players from pg to show up for over an hour since they told us that they would contact tox when they were ready. we waited much longer than that while we got other matches played throughout the day.

we will post another update as soon as any is available.
am 26.11.2017 / 19:05:03
You can reseed your Players if that is necessary to Play the games without the permission of your opponent. Just the Players have to be in the Team or were already in the Lineup for the Clanwar.
OwNu|Yosham 26.11.2017 / 18:10:35
i already told you that furioso is out this entire weekend. if we could reseed him for sniq (the only person available to play 2s at the moment) then we can get it played in the next hour or so since umad seems to be unresponsive.
pGJr.|Moveam 26.11.2017 / 17:55:18
Any news about GW??
pG.|pG.Sky-Watcheram 26.11.2017 / 17:01:12
AI : Walter 2-1 Jokern
OwNu| 25.11.2017 / 23:39:00
iam in clan ownu on w3arena at 16 cet. bring any player you like ( havoline / walter )
we didnt allow a reseed but this sad desaster should end with games being played out.
pG.|pG.Okkulam 25.11.2017 / 21:36:28
TM 18-19 CET Mezzomix+Walter or Crppt(if Schoko wont be able)
OwNu|KaRoam 25.11.2017 / 18:37:04
I asked for tm at 18-19 cet why do you Even Try at 16-17 lol
pG.|pG.Okkulam 25.11.2017 / 18:16:59
AI 16-17 CET Walter can play instead of Havoline
GW 18-19 CET ikbencool+yipikai
TM 16-17 CET Mezzomix+Walter or Crppt(if Schoko wont be able)
pG.|pG.Okkulam 24.11.2017 / 23:08:45
I need to know that thing and then i can suggest 3 dates.
pG.|pG.Okkulam 24.11.2017 / 23:07:14
Do you allow if we postpone this matches on next week with deadline till 3th December or not?
OwNu|yaBoltezam 24.11.2017 / 17:05:31
please try it again... for each map 3 dates...
OwNu|KaRoam 24.11.2017 / 14:31:54
Do you live in the Future? You ve got the 24th decembre already?:o
We re still in Novembre damn.
There s no way for yaboltez to Play before 18 cet. He s at work. Sunday around 18-19 cet?
pG.|pG.Okkulam 24.11.2017 / 07:15:41
Any news?
pG.|pG.Okkulam 24.11.2017 / 00:17:49
For future*

So, we are waiting the answer from your side
pG.|pG.Okkulam 23.11.2017 / 23:14:33
yes u2 xD
OwNu| 23.11.2017 / 23:00:19
merry christmas LOL
pG.|pG.Okkulam 23.11.2017 / 22:57:33
I typied today cuz in Moscow already 24th December
pG.|pG.Okkulam 23.11.2017 / 22:56:32
TM can be play today and tomorrow 15-16 CET
GW im waiting for response and give you answer today later (i guess it works saturday/sunday from 17 CET but need to know exactly)
About AI - can we play it on next week, do you allow it if we postpone this match on next week with deadline till 3th December for AI? Our player becoming in vacation atm, his wife gave birth to the child, he cant play on this week.
OwNu|yaBoltezam 23.11.2017 / 22:02:03
we had 1 task, to tell few dates... is that so hard ??
am 23.11.2017 / 17:35:33
Dear Okkul,

we always decided on basis of the WC3CL-Rulebook. You had 2 weeks to play the postponed matches (§4.1. (8)). You were not able to play out the matches. OwNu did use their right to ask for Default win (§4.3. (4)). We had a hard discussion about that, which took pretty long because on the one side we had to get information all ourself and on first we could not unite on a result. We had a tie in having defwins for OwNu or try playing them out but according to our Fair-Play-Netiquette (§1.7.) we have chosen the 2nd Option. That is covered partly by §4.2. (5) and §4.1. (8). According that we gave you another one and a half week 15.11-26.11 to finish the games because experience shows that if games won't be played after usual time Clans will try to get points out of it close to Playoff, which resulted in lots of defwins close to playoffs and favored teams that were not likely to play out in time.

Please explain me why you are not able to find times to play in 11 days. Your opponent was clearly able to do it and they probably also have other priorities. We already decided in favor of your Team to give you the Chance to play. The only divergence from our rules is that we allowed you to reseed if necessary to give you a higher Chance to play it. Actually that is also covered by §1.3. (2).

We won't decide for a postpone of the deadline because we already interpreted our rules in your favor and gave you a 2nd Chance. But you could ask your enemy if he might agree for a new Deadline according to §1.3. (3).

Best whishes
Head of Support
cG|Loganam 23.11.2017 / 17:24:40
Ah i meant okkul, not you yosh. Was a typo
OwNu|Yosham 23.11.2017 / 15:54:07
@logan wait... what did i say? i did not one time fight back on this decision by the admins and instead talked it out with my team and got dates/times as instructed. feelsbadman
cG|Loganam 23.11.2017 / 08:30:17
Admins can bend the rules in some special situations. Why this is a problem for you Yosh? In every other sport this is possible aswell. You payed a lot of effort to play out the games, both sides. Ofc the league administration is interessted to play out games aswell in first place. Please ask yourself why you were not able to play this 3 submatches in the given time anf dont blame someone else for it. When you think, the league should not allow exceptions in future anymore, it should be discussed about that for next time.
pG.|pG.Okkulam 22.11.2017 / 21:40:23
In short? Lol, you got the clanwar from 1.5 month ago, which is much shorter??!
This is contrary to the rules, we didnt ask, we informed that on your whim the first - "I want regame,or I want to nulicifate etc." does not mean that everyone is ready to play.
Where does clan ownu? You make decisions, you got the game out of the archive, so put a reasonable time, once already
if you wanted to have a normal league, and not a farce, where everything happens incomprehensibly as and normal objective results, rather than results obtained by incomprehensible substitutions in the rules.
|am 22.11.2017 / 21:39:42
In short? Lol, you got the clanwar from 1.5 month ago, which is much shorter??!
This is contrary to the rules, we didnt ask, we informed that on your whim the first - "I want regame,or I want to nulicifate etc." does not mean that everyone is ready to play.
Where does clan "ownu"? You make decisions, you got the game out of the archive, so put a reasonable time, once already
if you wanted to have a normal league, and not a farce, where everything happens incomprehensibly as and normal objective results, rather than results obtained by incomprehensible substitutions in the rules.
am 22.11.2017 / 21:17:02
In short: do you want to ask if we could postpone the deadline for another week?

If OwNu agrees so - everything is fine, but they were already able to manage open times for the still open games.
pG.|pG.Okkulam 22.11.2017 / 20:36:11
Admins of the league write leagues for themselves, no compliance, complete chaos, at first they said one thing and then another, contrary to the regulations, 2 weeks-game was dug up only after 1.5 months! !! !! We also had our own plans, our debts for games and our schedule of games, and he did not match up with this spontaneous decision by the league administrators, blow hot and cold, which could have been played a month earlier, as expected, rather than writing, when everything is long forgotten.
you want us to destroy our plans and, contrary to our personal affairs and time, go to meet that you are violating your own rules, that we have been subjugated to where there is a clear violation of the rules.
If this option would be considered, then the regame's period of this match must be increased for 1 week more, that is, till 3th December, everyone has their own plans, I repeat, everyone has a job, a family, and that someone suddenly wanted to get a moldy game from the archive and to regame it, contrary to the rules of the league, does not mean that everything immediately rush and can play, have a conscience and respect.
OwNu|Yosham 22.11.2017 / 13:43:51
gw - this will be a bit tricky. wed + thurs @ 20 cet but furioso is going away for the weekend and tox is not available on friday. real life is a thing!
am 21.11.2017 / 17:47:50
All dates have to be confirmed 24h before the start, otherwise it's up to you, if you still want to except them.
OwNu|Yosham 21.11.2017 / 12:47:53
ai - wed 11/22 17 cet, thurs 11/23 17, sunday 11/26 12-17

gw - tox should return from vacation today so i will have a better idea as to his schedule after i talk to him

tm - tues 11/21 17:30-22 cet, wed 11/22 17:30-22 cet, thurs 11/23 17:30-22 cet

Even though i list these dates we kind of need to know in advance (except for the one today which is short notice) whether we need to to show up and when. There should be no expectations that people will be available to play 10 minutes before these times or if we happen to be on at times outside of this. If we are available to play under such unplanned conditions then that is a bonus.
am 15.11.2017 / 22:52:07
Good evening pG and OwNu,

the open games will be played under admin Observation. Please both Teams Name us three possible Dates, otherwise we will choose Dates. Players can be reshuffled. The Deadline is the 26th of November.

Best wishes

pG.|pG.Okkulam 03.11.2017 / 17:17:46
One more racist here, nice.
OwNu|KaRoam 03.11.2017 / 11:19:46
You re just another russian fool who just dont get it.
Try Even harder my Friend. You Need the defs, we all know this cw would be a rape for you.
Cya boii
pG.|pG.Okkulam 03.11.2017 / 10:49:34
Cool story, dear drowningpool. You should eat more candies for your brain. You must accept the next facts:
1) your health - its your health, and it doesnt have any relation for cw;
2) at least i asked yosh for prepone games of semifinal stage of nwc3l since swe,lg and other teams did it and he just ignored me in skype, also i told him "feel free and ask for any prepones";
3) we did with reference to rules of nwc3l Match process - Play-off;
4) you told about your mega power of flexibility, so since your team had enough players, you should be replaced by someone;
5) your rofl story about 2v2 so funny and also dont relate for cw, you could make replace since you have 1million players in your team for wc3cl.

Anyway, peace. This thread should be close. I agreed with decidion of Balnazza about remove of defwins and pG can play it again if the admin thinks about it.
OwNu|KaRoam 03.11.2017 / 08:30:40
What? What was my fault LuL :D
About nwc3l, i asked yosh to Play my Game at last, Since i was ill and felt shit, the only thing i know, you were to stupid to Play Cash vs Touch Since both of them were around and wanted to Play. Talking about my behaviour so? Nice joke bra.
And about wc3cl Match yeah of cource hahahaha. I mentioned Dates for it to Play where you were Not around. Why do you say i dont wanted to Play the 2n2 here, when yaboltez was Not Even around LOL do you wanted me to Play 1vs2? Hahahahaha
pGJr.|Moveam 03.11.2017 / 05:11:15
Lol Joker only your excuses are pathetic.
am 03.11.2017 / 04:13:15
We got an official request to look after this clanwar, regarding the last three Bo3s. Since it may took some time to look at all the evidance and make a decision, all defwins are removed and will only be put in by admins.
OwNu| 02.11.2017 / 21:11:39
you are really pathetic, did we arrange a confirmation about the day? no we didnt. i know it exactly it was tuesday the 17.10. and i had freetime which wasnt planned. and if you dont know english im really sorry for you, i dont play when your merc forces me to play without an arranged date.
also "joker lied that he hadnt freetime" what about havoline, who you said couldnt play at thursday at all but was playing a cup on thursday? isnt it the same?
and no i wont play vs him anymore, i will force a defwin for us since your organisation was really poor which yosh already wrote in another comment. also havoline coming on last minute even if you wrote he couldnt play on sunday at all + he instantly flamed me and yosh.
pG.|pG.Okkulam 02.11.2017 / 20:26:07
You are talking about the toxic behavior of our clan, but you forget to mention how drowningpool acted. In addition, joker brazenly lied about the fact that he does not have free time. I have proof of this fact, when our manager pGCl.Sky asked him about the possibility of playing with havo when the joker played a ladder. And he replied that he simply does not want to play, that supposedly a clanwar and a ladder are different stories. But it's just funny, it's obvious that the joker was hiding from havoline and offered a substitute (really as it is flexible ^^) for the strongest player of your clan after ente.
The other question is on the surface, and this is 2x2, if the admin of this league thinks it's the mistake of clan pg, we agree for regame, otherwise we refuse this regame, as the deadline ended last Sunday. And by the way, I informed the comrade drowningpool that pg is ready to play all three matches on Sunday on this MCs.
You are wise to say that you have proposed a compromise, because you are a real manager, and have a lot of knowledge about how to negotiate. I apologize for the behavior of havoline, but it was not groundless. And by the way, proof of the joker's excuses look at the post script.

OwNu|Yosham 02.11.2017 / 02:52:24
This is actually a bit ridiculous.

Here are the facts:
1) we were ready to play ai on the date of the cw but it was your player who was not able to make it to this cw on time but at least you properly postponed it. unfortunately we could only play ai on sundays due to real life plans and even then he never stated that he was around all day just to wait until havo gets on to play on a last minute basis. we offered a reseed to be more flexible and you denied it then wondered why the timing never works out? even then sunday from 12-16 was offered and you did not agree or accept it. you show up after that time and try to force joker to play when... guess what? he made plans because you never confirmed or planned or even showed up at the appropriate time when joker made himself available. he was entertaining guests and could not play with havo at 18:30 which is when he finally showed up. on top of that havo is flaming myself and joker like a rabid dog as if that was going to motivate him to behave rudely to his guests just to play a poorly planned match. the funny part is that i did not even say anything to havo and he flamed me for no reason. poor / last minute planning isn't our problem. i honestly see no valid claim towards any defwin for any side but given your behavior it looks like you are the problem regarding getting this map played and we shouldn't have to bend over backwards for havo because he is unable to tell us a date and time that we can reasonably plan our lives around.
2) tm was scheduled and agreed for wed and you did NOT show up. i dont care what your circumstances were and who on your end forgot to tell your own players that you had confirmed with us to meet on wed but that is YOUR fault. yaboltez was not around sunday at all and no dates were not even offered on your end. this sounds like a defwin for us doesnt it? because it sounds like a defwin for us due to your lack of planning.
3) gw our players were there and ready to play on the original date but it was your players who last minute could NOT play all of a sudden and you would not take our offer for a reseed for whatever reason. on top of that tox was busy with work and furioso was moving so they were unavailable on sunday and you were not able to provide dates without enough advanced notice after i asked you directly to just give us a few dates so that we can make this happen. asking us to play on the same day does not count as scheduling especially for a last minute postpone on your side which is technically against the rules. your attempt to take a defwin when we were lenient enough with you to not take the defwin on the original date is ridiculous. we should be the ones to claim the defwin on this map.

With that said we would still be willing to play out both 2v2 matches but i feel like havoline burned the bridge regarding the 1v1 match with such rabid comments and your general inability to work within the times available for a match that YOU postponed or allow us to reseed in order to allow you with more options to play out the match. I will have to discuss this with joker and see how he feels about attempting to plan this match out with someone that has such toxic behavior. I feel like an apology to joker and myself is in order.
OwNu|yaBoltezam 01.11.2017 / 21:25:08
at least this give you the right to take def for TM
pG.|pG.Sky-Watcheram 01.11.2017 / 19:03:02
i didnt see you and bound , anyway Sunday was deadline , we cant play our matches now, time is over
OwNu|yaBoltezam 01.11.2017 / 18:21:18
@ TM - no confirmed date for the past sunday. i wasnt there.
So you cant take the defwin. i could, cause your players wasnt there for a confirmed date !
So edit it and tell me dates for TM
pG.|pG.Sky-Watcheram 29.10.2017 / 22:25:43
Since deadline is gone , and our players were at w3a and drowningpool and joker disagreed to play after nwc3l, we took defwins, i didnt see tox and furioso also
pG.|pG.Sky-Watcheram 29.10.2017 / 21:56:41
pG.|pG.Okkulam 29.10.2017 / 18:53:43
Joker disagreed to play vs havo, we dont allow second replace, so defwin for havo
pGJr.|Moveam 28.10.2017 / 22:37:21
Havoline can play on Sunday too. Joker , which time do you can??
pG.|pG.Okkulam 27.10.2017 / 18:49:20
I think Sunday should work for all rest games
OwNu|KaRoam 27.10.2017 / 15:17:47
What about Sunday ?
OwNu|KaRoam 25.10.2017 / 19:26:16
no we cant Play today, try it a bit earlier with Dates and not like at the same day wtf
pG.|pG.Okkulam 25.10.2017 / 17:46:28
We can swap players gw to tm if tox and furioso cant play today
pG.|pG.Okkulam 25.10.2017 / 17:43:11
Lets play gw today havoline+yipikai 19-21 cest works. We need a sub (ikben to havo), do you agree?
OwNu| 24.10.2017 / 20:24:42
i can only play thursday or sunday, do you mind if we reseed karo with me? he is around on weekdays in the evening, since he got replaced by tox
pG.|pG.Okkulam 24.10.2017 / 08:52:38
Plz give any news about Joker's game
pG.|pG.Okkulam 24.10.2017 / 08:51:32
I try to get both pairs for GW/TM asap and give you dates.
pG.|pG.Okkulam 24.10.2017 / 08:49:34
Havo can play AI any evening on the week after 19h cest except of Thursday and weekend.
OwNu|KaRoam 24.10.2017 / 08:30:48
I dont know if it makes sense to swap Players from gw to tm Since we Need to Play botb Maps till Sunday.
Unless you want to reseed mezzo.
Would be okay for us to Play it out
pG.|pG.Okkulam 24.10.2017 / 00:00:53
Mezzomix at the vacation now, i offer to play GW, also we can swap players for tm/gw if you agree
pG.|pG.Okkulam 23.10.2017 / 16:21:05
I will ask and give you dates asap
OwNu|KaRoam 23.10.2017 / 08:24:51
What about tm? Since you missed the Date on wednesday pls Tell some Dates
pG.|pG.Okkulam 22.10.2017 / 13:48:15
Okay, i will inform havo about it
OwNu| 22.10.2017 / 12:45:55
ill let you know asap when i know a date im able to play during the week
pG.|pG.Okkulam 21.10.2017 / 14:28:19
yaBoltez told me in skype that your team can AT-matches on Sunday? *** in previous comment mistake in word
pG.|pG.Okkulam 21.10.2017 / 14:27:41
yaBoltez told me in skype that your team clan AT-matches on Sunday? About AI-map im not sure that Havo can play on Sunday, but i asked Balnazza, he told that we have two weeks for our cw. May you put plz one more day? Except of weekends.
pG.|pG.Okkulam 21.10.2017 / 14:26:11
I apologize for fails by pG.Sky. Lets make discussion with me. I will help on this cw.
OwNu| 21.10.2017 / 01:21:34
you offered thurs/friday 18 and i asked for 20 cest - no answer
tm was organized for wednesday 19 cest, and your players didnt show up
1on1 AI - sunday 12-16
pG.|pG.Sky-Watcheram 20.10.2017 / 18:28:56
when you are ready to play 2v2 on GW and TM?
OwNu| 17.10.2017 / 21:34:08
what about 20 cest?
pG.|pG.Sky-Watcheram 17.10.2017 / 18:57:27
GW 2v2 we can play thursday/Friday at 18-00 cest.
OwNu|KaRoam 16.10.2017 / 08:34:39
Tm works tomorrow and thursday After 19 cet
pG.|pG.Sky-Watcheram 15.10.2017 / 20:49:29
AZ match DrowningPool replaced by Tox.
OwNu| 15.10.2017 / 18:03:06
ok unfortunately karo has some traffic issues and isnt making it in time.. so we postpone AZ and TM
pG.|pG.Sky-Watcheram 15.10.2017 / 17:25:46
And on map NI postpone match.
OwNu| 15.10.2017 / 17:24:18
its no problem so we play 2on2 GW at 18 cest and the rest at 19~
pG.|pG.Sky-Watcheram 15.10.2017 / 17:09:05
Hi. We need to postpone the match on map AI.
OwNu| 15.10.2017 / 13:16:43
Hey NI can be played at ~19 cest
az and tm latest at ~20 cest but maybe a bit earlier, the rest can start at default time.
meet clan ownu